Alejandra Ortiz
Assistant Professor
Department of Geology, Colby College

Interviewed by:  Luc Charbonneau, American Geosciences Institute
Interview date:  August 3, 2022
Location:  Microsoft Teams

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Ortiz:

My name is Alejandra Ortiz. I am an assistant professor in the Department of Geology at Colby College. I started at Colby College in September of 2019, right before the pandemic. I am finishing off my third year and about to start my 4th.

Charbonneau:

What courses do you teach or work with?

Ortiz:

So, every year I teach an intro to geomorphology course, a 200 level, and it has a lab, and we typically have about 8 to 12 students. And then in the spring I am typically teaching one of our five introductory geology courses, so that course also has typically 2 lab sections. It is capped at 36 students, and it is a range of students from across the college who need a lab science credit.

Otherwise, it varies every other year or so. I will teach a specialty kind of 300 level seminar course. Last time I thought that it was spring of 2020 and that was a tropical island geomorphology. And then sometimes I will lead our department seminar series, which invites speakers to give talks once a week.

Charbonneau:

When the pandemic hit in March 2020 how long were you virtual before you came back into like some blended capacity and what capacity are you in right now?

Ortiz:

In March of 2020, I was teaching my 300 Level seminar course, tropical islands geomorphology, and I had about 12 students. I was also teaching a lab section of my colleague's intro course: “how to build a habitable planet.”

We went virtual the week before spring break and then did not come back in person. I was very lucky in that my tropical islands course was easy to transfer over. It was split between Tuesday lectures from me and then Thursdays were student led paper discussions. What I did at the time was I would live record my lectures on Tuesdays and students were encouraged to show up for a synchronous class, but they were not needed and then on Thursdays we had it needed synchronous class. I was lucky that all my students were in the same time zone.

It worked well. We had a little bit of fun translating some of the homework, which was very computationally based to making sure that students could do that remotely. I was able to set up some remote desktop access for my students so that they could get access to the software on campus and not have to install it on their own laptops, but compared to my colleagues, it was very easy.

For lab we do use Moodle here on campus. We ended up just switching to that with virtual labs. We were lucky at that point that we only had one kind of rock lab left. So, we had made sedimentary rocks, minerals, and igneous rocks. We just had the metamorphic. So, it was not as terrible.

We lost a field trip. Students just had a kind of log in once a week, and I would be online zoom and they could ask questions which no one ever did, and they must fill out these Moodle lab exercises. It was not great, but it worked, and I was not in charge. I was just following along with what my colleague was doing. Then we continued virtually, as I said, all spring of 2020. But then as of that summer, we were continuing to the virtual so by the summer of June 2020, faculty were allowed back on campus.

We were getting tested. We had to wear masks, but we were allowed on campus. Students could do summer research with us, but it was entirely virtual. I cannot remember if it was needed virtual or not. I do remember both of my summer students who were doing research with me were virtual, again because a lot of my work is computational. I pivoted from doing field work, which had been the original plan to focus purely on the computational, and it was fine.

Starting fall of 2020, Colby was back in person. We had testing three days a week mandatory for everyone on campus. We had mandatory masks, and it was up to each faculty to decide how we wanted to teach our course. The options were virtual, blended or in person. In geo, because we have the heavy emphasis on field trips, we as a department were in person. So that fall I taught geomorphology again, which has a lab I had around 8 students.

I did not have major issues. I think some of the biggest changes were spacing in the classroom and then more importantly, spacing going to and from field trips. So, you know, instead of having a kind of 112 passenger van we would have two big ones and have the windows down and which is fun when it is 40 degrees out.

But other than that, it was not too terrible. Because it was a small enough group it was not as disruptive. Then in the spring I taught my intro course and that was more difficult. It was in person. I had 36 students, and again because I had 36 students, the spacing became more interesting. So, what we did for our intra labs was our intra lab sections, our 18 students each. We have one lab classroom that fits 18 but with COVID requirements we ended up splitting them into two into like 2 labs. So, I would be running two classrooms simultaneously, so the TA and I would be going back and forth between them to ensure we had space and enough ventilation.

The thing we did find was that spring especially, we would have these like waves of students getting out. So even though it was in person, I was using Zoom or Kaltura classroom to record each session I was doing, which did kind of change some of the teaching a bit because I could only focus the camera on one part of the White Board. It will also change some of the activities I did in class, things like that.

That was spring of 2021, then this past year fall of 21 and spring of 22 still in person, still kind of testing multiple days a week, masks went to optional, but up to the professor. I continue to have them needed my classroom, and then general students were very good with that.

All this kind of work, because we were much smaller college, we are very isolated, would not near any large urban centers and it takes a while to get to a large urban center. So that kind of made it doable. Colby has now stopped all testing as of May 2022 and starting this fall we are done with COVID stuff. I am not teaching this coming year. I am on sabbatical. But yes, this past year, I had a lot more of the same. I taught geomorphology in the fall. I led the department seminar, and then in spring, I taught my intro again.

I would say the biggest differences where this spring I was not splitting the lab into two classrooms because to do that we kind of had them move around some other class space and it was kind of fell as a department that we did not need to do that anymore. I had waves of students go in and out with COVID. I was using Kaltura classroom to record. I had a better classroom set-up for that, so it was less juggling on my part like the whiteboard.

Our department seminar series. I would say the biggest change is about half to 2/3 of our speakers were virtual and we gave the speakers the choice. Some of the benefits where we were able to get speakers and like the UK or something, which normally we cannot afford to fly those people in. But we did have a couple of people in person. The other big changes are we used to have every Friday a Geo lunch. We stopped doing that completely during the pandemic. And then this last year when I was running the seminar series, because we would normally have lunch with the speaker and the students. We did it like once a month and we would get pizza and eat outdoors, which is very widely dependent in Maine and does not last that long. We did it like three times in the fall and then about two or three times in the spring, so much less often. Those were the biggest changes.

Charbonneau:

Are professors still going to have the choice to choose whether it is blended, partially remote or in person? Or is it all in person?

Ortiz:

It is all in person, and last year was all in person too, so we had the 20 fall 2022, spring 21 was the year that faculty could choose, and the estimate was about 25% of the classes were fully remote at the time. But then this past year, so 21 to 22 was fully in person. A lot of us continued to record sessions because we still had students missing stuff. Just to keep it moving forward, we did that, but we have been in person.

Charbonneau:

What level of virtual integration have you incorporated into your teaching curriculum that you plan to use forward?

Ortiz:

I think the biggest is for the seminar series. I think moving forward we are planning to keep doing about half of our speakers virtual and about half in person. The benefit to the in person is the students get to have lunch with them, the faculty have dinner with the person. We have individual meetings. So, it is not just their talk.

We must be able to fly them in or pay for their travel. What we found is that by being able to do a mix, it gives the faculty a little bit of a break each week. We do not have to have lots of time booked off, but more importantly it allows us to bring in speakers from broader areas. And so, we have been able to have more higher-profile speakers periodically because we can do that virtually. And at this point, so many people are used to doing that, but it is not a major question. So, that is probably where we are doing it the most from my courses.

Oher than that first March of 2020, I was not the I would say my virtual stuff was very on the side. It was very much just a little bit of a backup rather than a primary focus or tool even. Because I am still relatively new to teaching some of these courses, there is enough iteration going on that the old lectures are not necessarily that relevant year to year. There is still a decent amount of change going on, so I like having those resources. If I do have a student miss something, I am like, oh yes, this needed lecture from two years ago might give you a bit of sense. But I am not planning significant stuff with that. Yeah, I would not say that there is a ton I am continuing to use, but that is because we were in person, and I was mostly not using virtual tools.

So, there is one thing, and it is pandemic driven, but I would say more tangently, which I am just remembering now this I have a colleague in the CS department who with a colleague at her earlier institution, had developed a virtual field trip on using virtual reality, both in a headset form and via desktop. When I found out about it, I was like, oh, this is fantastic. I would love to use this in my intro course, and so we did this past spring as a kind of lab test of ok, here is how we could do a field trip and teach some of the spatial navigational tools that we have students do in the field, and some interpretation of like, if this works on top of this rock, which one is older?

That is something I did not derive from the pandemic but was originally developed because of the pandemic. But now we want to keep using it for two big reasons. One is the accessibility piece and two field trips, especially when you teach in the spring. Here we tend to only have like two labs where the weather is nice enough that we can really take interested into the field and if there's bad weather those days you just cannot do the field trip. Having that choice is something I am excited about and that is something I have continued. I have been working now individually with that faculty here to develop my own field trip or field site that we want to this summer in Belize. And again, that is me. I am going to incorporate it into my classes. That is the biggest piece which I was totally forgetting about.

Charbonneau:

Did you notice what were the changes in terms of like student recruitment and retention? Did you have like a drop off?

Ortiz:

That's an interesting question. know because Colby was in person the first year of the pandemic, like 20 to 21. We had a huge increase in applicants for the school. As a result, we had a much larger class starting like freshman class last year. They have had to build emergency dorms. So, there has been a real growth in Colby application numbers and acceptances and those who are coming, so they say the yield is higher than expected anyway. I know that has been true, and we have seen it as a general pressure for the number of students signing up, especially for intro labs. Like my colleague's intro, he had like 100 students sign up for it, right? And it is a 36-person class. That we do see.

I would say on a more personal note, the thing I have noticed especially in my geomorphic class fall of 21 was a significant uptick in student anxiety and a lack of ability to deal with frustration. The two examples I will give for that is I went through a box of Kleenex in my office in one semester. That was because of the number of students who were coming to me, not just in my class, but in more general, very upset.

I have my students do a decent amount of kind of computational assignments in my geomorphology class and a lot of them have no background with any kind of computational [work]. And so, there's always frustration [with] things that do not work. And typically, I have found in the past that students will give me a couple of minutes of like trying to Google it and trying to fix it on their own before like [saying] “I can't do it, it doesn't work.” And last year I was getting 30 seconds. Like, I mean it would be like meltdown in about 10 seconds and just no desire to kind of handle it not working. Yes, that was to me a real change. Much more so even than the first year.

I always offer a lot of office hours and sit-down hands-on. Ok, let us like deep breath. Let us look through this cause a lot of it tends to be tied to Python coding and the students who kind of would come in and for office hours would do very well. Things I did, and I have done in the past too, were if I had an assignment where students did not do well, half the class did well, and half did not. I would offer say, ok, you have one more week. You can work on everything, and you have notes. You have feedback on what is wrong and if you work on it and turn it back in, you can get up to 50% of the points back. So, if you have lost 20 points, you could get another 10 points added to this grade. That would be a way for me to try and incentivize, let us focus on kind of understanding what's wrong here and kind of how do you fix it? I have done that with exams periodically. I have done it with homework assignments and lab assignments, so that was something I used. I also ended up dropping some assignments.

I would say it was the worst teaching I have had like the hardest teaching I have had was the fall of 2021. So, this past fall was just the most difficult. In general, where everyone was just very close to breaking point all the time and talking with other faculty here, that seemed very common, but it felt like normal, at the beginning of the semester you have like a ramp up and the anxiety of students. It was like just a step change. We went from low, anxious to high and never came down.

Charbonneau:

What happened in terms of the amount of faculty you had at Colby?

Ortiz:

Yeah. I think the thing I have noticed is they have had trouble hiring enough people. That has been an issue on the faculty and administrative staff sides. You know the administrator for our department who is also the administrative for physics and science policy, technology, she has gone mostly remote. Well, like I do not know, 1/3 in person is like 2/3 remote and she is retiring this fall. I think there has been a bit of a speedup of that timeline for retirement.

I have been on a couple of search committees for faculty, and we have been having trouble getting some people. There have been a lot of VIP searches, visiting assistant professor searches to do one or two-year replacements. It has been a little tough to get some people on the staff side.

There has been a lot more difficulty in terms of like IT support. IT was stretched before the pandemic. It got really stretched during the pandemic and so now they have been really trying to make positions that are remote flexible because it has always been hard, a little bit to get people to come to central Maine if they are not already here for another reason. I know that has been a big thing of kind of both being able to provide the compensation that people in IT would be getting in the private sector as well as being able to provide, I think a lot of the other benefits that you can get in the private sector with more remote options. Right now, we are trying to hire someone for the new artificial intelligence center, and both people are working like candidates who are coming are for remote position completely.

But on the faculty side of those who are already here I do not know of much. They were a couple of people who, in their retirement, who I think speed it up by a year or two. But not a huge amount. We have not had a huge turnover on the existing faculty yet.

Charbonneau:

Did your departmental budget change?

Ortiz:

I do not know the numbers exactly. I do know that Colby had this kind of huge testing campaign for like the four, you know, two and a half, two years of the pandemic where everyone was being tested on campus two to three times a week. Colby took a large chunk of their endowment and used it to pay for that, which I was proud of, and no one was fired, and no one was let go. During the time we were fully remote in March of 2020, that spring. There were a lot of staff who are working part time less, but they were paid their normal hours. Colby did a good job with that.

I do know they made a bonus of like $1000 the first fall, so fall of 2020. In terms of our department budget, we did not have much tightening. We have had a little bit of extra because we have not been bringing in as many speakers. Because we have had so many more virtual speakers, there is just a bit more money there. We were able to do my lab renovations, which got pushed back a year because of COVID without any issue. Overall, I think it has been healthy. A large part of that is that the endowment was very healthy before the pandemic. There was a little cushion there. There is strong alumni support.

Charbonneau:

When the students came back to you after the peak of the pandemic, what did you notice were like the skill gaps, social gaps. What did you notice were the things they came in with that you had to adjust for?

Ortiz:

With our majors there was not a silly huge difference, but I will say you know as a warning, I have only been teaching here a semester. So, it is a little bit hard for me to judge that strongly with our non-majors. In some ways, it is even harder because I did not teach non-majors until after the pandemic started until spring of 21. There are some significant skill gaps because our intro courses are dominant, you know, 95% are students who have taken a lab science and they do not want to take any of the others.

My first lab for intro is unit conversion, and that is a stretch sometimes like I am asking them to convert between meters and kilometers. I would say a quarter of my lab students have trouble with that, which is scary to me. So, there is a skill gap there, to put it mildly.

Overall, I think on the emotional you know, so like the quantitative skill gap, [I] was talking about with the ability to kind of handle frustration that is something I have just been seeing students since the pandemic. Yes, it is a little hard to judge. I was so new.

Charbonneau:

What geoscience and professional skills do you try to incorporate or hope your students come away with when they take your courses?

Ortiz:

Yeah, I think you have named a lot of them. I would say for intro the other big ones that we focus on are just the General Rock ID and mineral ID. That is not a small part with the lab especially, but on the geomorphology side, there is a focus on that, I think. Some of the field methods, so this tends to be the first course where we are doing a bit more field heavy. We typically do field 3 field trips, so things like how do you use a field notebook? What should you be recording?

When we talk about taking measurements in pairs, and then as a group, how do you come back into the lab and put that together? That is something I spent a decent amount of time on. But I would say the other big focus with my geomorph is computational skills. We do the basic ability to read in data from instruments, clean it up. Analyze it and visualize it. I use Python for that and part of that is driven by the fact it is useful for students to have some basic computational literacy, like just being comfortable with arranging different things beyond just excel. Even that, in intro I must teach Excel, but it is the 200 level. I am trying to push them beyond that.

The other reason is if students want to work with me to do research, they need that as a basis. Part of it is also selfish is not to make sure that I can have students prepared to work with me. It is built into the core significantly. We do several labs with Python. We have several homework assignments with Python. I will do a lab the first week with Excel on flood analysis, flood frequency analysis, and 2nd week we did the same thing but using Python to kind of structure that and show how we can use Python more effectively to do a lot of these same steps and frankly much more quickly.

But yes, I think the two big pieces with geomorph is how do you work in the field. How does that then translate to getting data realizing that you did not get what you thought or did not work? Just those pieces of the reality of gathering a real project and not kind of or so much of a cookie cutter thing. Then how can we effectively analyze this and visualize it? Those are the two big things we do in that class.

Then at my upper level 300-level course, a big focus was scientific literacy, so that is why I do these student-led paper discussions. By the end of the course, we had read about 20 journal articles. Each student leads it in pairs. So, each student will have been like a discussion later, usually three times throughout the semester. That is a big focus, and that is just getting them comfortable with some of the primary literature.

Charbonneau:

Did your program change any of its requirements? Did you make some courses pass fail. Did you change what courses counted for certain credits? Did you arrange any accommodation for the students?

Ortiz:

I think the biggest accommodations we tended to make is we have a couple of students who were abroad and then had to come back midway. We were lenient with credit for those courses where we might not have counted them towards the major, but we were just like, ok fine, we will use it. Within each individual course as faculty, we would be much more lenient with things like deadlines and grading.

In general, I would say the past two years I have been much more lenient with deadlines. Normally I have a thing like if you turn something late, you lose 10% per day during the pandemic. It was officially changed to 5% but was 1%. The other big change we had was not so much pandemic driven. It was a little bit pandemic driven. We only had a couple of majors two years ago; we had three majors and then last year this past year we only had two majors.

Normally we have a senior capstone class. Instead of doing that because we had so few students and because as faculty we were stretched, we ended up just having them do independent projects one-on-one with faculty instead. That has always been a choice to do a senior thesis or to do the capstone class. In this case we said, ok, we are not offering the capstone class. You can do a senior thesis or independent research. We did that in the past two years and continuing this year. The question is now that we are trying to get back, we are trying to have more majors. Again, if we are going to go back to the capstone class or not. Then anyone who was studying abroad, just more lenient and credits, could transfer and what could count for a credit.

Charbonneau:

When students complete your program with a bachelor's degree in geology, do they have to complete a field camp?

Ortiz:

No. Our major is an eleven-course major, so there is one of like four or five intro courses that can take if they take any of them, they can get into the major. We do not have a single gateway. Then there are four 200 levels needed, each with a lab. Those are each taught by the four-tenure track faculty every year. Then they must take two 300 levels, non-labors and then one I think like two others either 300 or another 200 level and then they must do 2 aligned sciences. The last requirement we have is this geology some in our course they have to do 3 semesters of it. So, we do not need a field camp. We do not need calculus or chemistry. We suggest it, but it is not needed.

Charbonneau:

Were you doing any of your own research during the pandemic?

Ortiz:

Yes. I had a couple of grants that we are continuing, as well as new research I was doing with students here. Originally, I was supposed to be doing more field work for one of my grants that was delayed about a year and a half. Some internal grants from Colby were delayed about 2.5 years, so I just did the field work this summer. Much of my work can be more computational, so I leaned into that, and as I said, my lab renovations were delayed a year and a half because of the pandemic.

It was much more of a shift for me and a rearrangement of when we were doing things. But it did not stop. I was lucky.

Charbonneau:

How effective was that strategy of just prioritizing that because you knew at some point you did have to go back to the field work?

Ortiz:

I will start with one of the grants I had with colleague, Ann in North Carolina. One of the graduate students I think ended up shifting completely his focus for that grant. It has been profitable from him, and he is like now publishing the 5th paper on that work. He was very theoretical and liked statistical analysis of existing data sets. Rather than trying to use the field work to gather more stuff that we could then analyze, the kind went to what already existed and used that.

I would say similarly, my graduate student in that project rather than trying to get the field data to then kind of set-up the models we just said OK, let us start with the modeling and then we will try and pull in some of the field work once we get there. So, you know it worked it. There was some I think gaps as a result where we could not really do as much validation a calibration of our modeling that we would have to, and we had originally planned initially to have kind of repeat field work where we would go out early on and then kind of midway through to gather more data and we just never got that. So, I think that also kind of it puts some, not holes, but it changed how we could talk about what we were doing.

I say that project wrapped up this past summer, and I can see that clearly. I would say for the field work that I was planning to do here it had less of an impact because it was a less defined deadline and project right? It is much more driven by me starting to get some small internal grants from Colby. I do not have a large thing of like, ok, I must get all this done by these dates and because it was internal funding with Colby, it was easy for me to push back and delay it.

I think, you know, costs went up, the travel logistics got a lot more fun, thanks to COVID. But it in terms of like the research impact, it was not huge with that because it was a new project that was trying to get up off the ground.

Charbonneau:

I am assuming now with what is in play with the policies at Colby that you are allowed to do your fieldwork and everything back to business as usual?

Ortiz:

Yeah, it has been mostly how comfortable I feel about doing it. I would say my methods have not necessarily changed that much because frankly I am more of a computational person anyway. Just at the time of the pandemic hitting I had field work lined up that had to get delayed. I like to say I do fieldwork every two to three years and then I am back on the computer. It is not a huge switch for me.

Charbonneau:

What new opportunities do you think the pandemic gave you reflecting on it now two years after?

Ortiz:

I was teaching tropical island geomorphology when I ended it on the last day of class, we did a class wide debate. So yes, the whole time we were talking about atolls and looking at that from the geomorphic perspective. The research has been done and a big focus is on thinking about climate change, and its effects. The debate was, will these islands be resilient with climate change in the future?

It was a fantastic way to end the semester. It really forced the students to synthesize all the different pieces we had been to. We had been talking about throughout the semester. They had to be able to articulate the different arguments we had read and then put forth their own. It was just fun. I do not know that I would have produced that idea if I had not been in this virtual thing where I was like, ok, what activity can I do?

You know this whole thing about the VR field trips, that is something that I have been interested in for a while, but I think thanks to the pandemic I have colleagues who are doing that and so I was able to easily connect with that.

In terms of other positives, I now have some like recorded talks. You know that is nice. I've I did a webinar with the group that was mostly in New Zealand and Australia that was positive for me. So, that got into a lot of interest in some of my research with people I might not have been able to meet otherwise easily. But yes, it is hard to say. I would say not huge benefits, but I was not necessarily as negatively affected as a lot of people.

Charbonneau:

What piece of advice would you like to give yourself or somebody in your position prior to them going through what you experienced?

Ortiz:

Be gentle with yourself. Be nice to yourself. I mean, all I can say, and I did keep thinking this through the pandemic was how lucky I was to be here up in Central Maine and not still back down in Raleigh, NC State, my earlier institution. Just because you know we were able to teach in person, I did not have to do zoom 8 hours a day for a year.

We were able to, you know, go to the grocery store, and go for walks. And we were not locked into a tiny space. Well, we have a tiny house, but that was my choice. You know, we had, we had a quite different environment than most people. So, it was a very different pandemic. I do not know advice is it will mostly all work out somehow.

Charbonneau:

What is your biggest take away for how to navigate restrictions and setbacks if they ever occur in the future?

Ortiz:

Money. Yes, it is like the biggest one, frankly, can you throw money at the problem? I do not know it is so dependent. I feel like in the situation, being adaptable and trying to roll with the punches.